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Xavier
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Posted - 18/12/2012 :  22:55:35  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote


Je poste ici un Prothemini (sp1) du nord Laos (Hua Phan).

Les déterminations sur le forum d'autres spécimens de Prothemini de l'Asie du sud-est me laissant un sérieux doute, je les ai rassemblés sur une seule planche.

Pour mémoire : http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=801&SearchTerms=prothema
Ce qui donnait :
- sp 2 : Prothema coomani ?
- sp 3 : Prothema signata ?
- sp 4 : Prothema coomani ? ( = même espèce que celle représentée dans le livre de Gressit-1970, sous le nom de P. signata)

Pour ma part, je vois ici 4 espèces différentes...Ou des variétés ??

Xavier
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Posted - 02/01/2013 :  18:06:12  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

Il me semble que l'espèce n°1 est une femelle de Prothema astutum Holzschuh, 2011 décrite de Chine, Yunnan . Je t'envoie la description en allemand, Francesco .

Edited by - Xavier on 02/01/2013 18:31:03
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znort
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China
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Posted - 05/01/2013 :  11:30:51  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Il y a des similitudes mais aussi des divergences au niveau de la tache médiane. Sur la photo de la publi de holzschuh on a l'impression que l'éperon sur les tibias postérieurs est bifide.

Located in Jiangsu now!!!
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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 05/01/2013 :  11:53:11  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Pas de différence pour les éperons : ils sont bien bifides, avec l'un plus court que l'autre. Attendons une traduction de la description.

Edited by - Xavier on 05/01/2013 12:10:54
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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 05/01/2013 :  14:09:16  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote


I add C.Holzschuh's picture to compare. It is true, znort: the last elytra band seems a little bit different. Sides of the pronotum are not the same, too...

Edited by - Xavier on 05/01/2013 14:12:43
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cerambyphil
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France
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Posted - 24/02/2018 :  23:54:12  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I think number 1 is Prothema coomani Pic, 1934 female.
Here is the picture from Holzschuh in "Les Cahiers Magellanes NS 28 page 76" :



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Edited by - cerambyphil on 25/02/2018 00:10:05
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cerambyphil
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Posted - 25/02/2018 :  00:18:35  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Number 4 must be Prothema x-fasciatum Hozschuh, 2017 pair.
Here is the picture from Holzschuh in "Les Cahiers Magellanes NS 28 page 76" :




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cerambyphil
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France
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Posted - 25/02/2018 :  00:24:26  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Number 2 must be Prothema vulgare Holzschuh, 2017 male.
Here is the picture from Holzschuh in "Les Cahiers Magellanes NS 28 page 76" :




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For number 3, I'm agree with the former identification.

Edited by - cerambyphil on 25/02/2018 01:07:54
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Xavier
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Posted - 25/02/2018 :  09:47:02  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
already done here and here.
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