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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 19/12/2012 :  09:16:01  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote


5 mm. Hua Phan, nord Laos.
Un Cleomenini mal photographié , mais nouveau pour le forum, pour le web et pour moi : Procleomenes elongatithorax Gressitt & Rondon, 1970 ; décrit page 310, fig 48f, dans la faune du Laos.

Edited by - Xavier on 31/12/2014 08:41:41

nasa
Member Rosalia

China
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Posted - 30/12/2014 :  15:36:05  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
yes! the type is here: https://apps2.cdfa.ca.gov/publicApps/plant/bycidDB/wdetails.asp?id=51592&w=o
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horshehden
Member Purpuricenus

Czech Republic
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Posted - 30/12/2014 :  15:56:30  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
P. elongatithorax has (probably) unicolored tibiae. Also the elytral apices should be more "toothed".

Edited by - horshehden on 30/12/2014 16:10:16
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Gerard
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Posted - 30/12/2014 :  17:32:44  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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Ca semble être un peu variable.
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horshehden
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Posted - 30/12/2014 :  18:01:44  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Yes, two different species often look very variable
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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 30/12/2014 :  18:34:34  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by horshehden

Yes, two different species often look very variable

Oui, c'est une autre espèce.
Peux-tu créer un nouveau post, Gérard ?
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Xaurus
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Germany
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Posted - 30/12/2014 :  23:58:35  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
If have a series of Procleomenes elongatithorax Gressitt & Rondon, 1970 and can confirm Xavier's spms: all of my spms are with the same elytral pattern and the legs colouration.
Opposite Gerard's spm belongs to Procleomenes mioleucus Holzschuh, 1998.

Edited by - Xavier on 31/12/2014 08:39:26
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horshehden
Member Purpuricenus

Czech Republic
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Posted - 31/12/2014 :  07:36:28  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I agree that the Gerard's specimen, as well as specimen here agrees well with the description of P.mioleucus - except the elytral apex:

More or less rounded in my series from Laos v. gerade abgestutzt mit sehr gut markierter Aussen und Nahtecke - is it a species variability?
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horshehden
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Posted - 31/12/2014 :  07:47:54  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
As concerns your series of P. elongatithorax, do you see some variability in the elytral apices and colour of tibiae?
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Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia

Germany
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Posted - 01/01/2015 :  23:01:53  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I have 6 spms of mioleucus, the apex is a bit rounded, only in 1 spm (female) the apex is somewhat oblique with a light spiny outer corner.
From elongatithorax I have 9 spms all with the nearly same coloration of the legs, hind tibia with basal half withish and the apical half light brown more or less up to the middle, in middle and fore tibia the same but less remarkable and sometimes complete light brown. The elytral apex oblique truncated (sometimes very weak concave) with inner and outer egde pointed.
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Francesco
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Posted - 07/03/2018 :  15:39:03  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Could you furnish me collection data (e.g. habitat, time) in order to define the phenology of this genus?
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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 07/03/2018 :  16:54:54  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
01.V for all my 4 specimens of P. elongatothorax , idem for 5 Procleomenes mioleucus (same locality)

Edited by - Xavier on 07/03/2018 16:55:30
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Francesco
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Luxembourg
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Posted - 22/03/2018 :  12:35:32  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
J'aurais voulu savoir: chasse diurne ou nocturne? Sur les feuilles, les fleurs, les arbres? ect.
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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 22/03/2018 :  13:10:27  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Aucune idée, j'ai acheté les miens à des gens du village .
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Francesco
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Posted - 22/03/2018 :  13:40:21  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 22/03/2018 :  14:12:53  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Non, je dis des bêtises ! Pris sur les fleurs de châtaignier asiatique (Castanopsis) en plein jour, avec des filets équipés de manches de 6 m de long !!!
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