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nalslan
Member Purpuricenus

China
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Posted - 29/01/2013 :  13:52:55  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote


Another one also from Guizhou, China.
Bi has said that it could be a Uraecha on his first sight.
I found it has a mesosternal process which a Uraecha should not have. So I got lost.
Any idea?
Thanks.

Francesco
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Posted - 29/01/2013 :  19:32:52  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I am not sure that this beetle belongs to Lamiini.
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Max
Member Rosalia

Russia
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Posted - 31/01/2013 :  17:43:43  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I have a discreet idea - Annamanum sp.
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nalslan
Member Purpuricenus

China
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Posted - 01/02/2013 :  11:54:04  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thanks Max and Francesco!
So the another two I posted may also be Annamanum too.

http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14549
http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14548
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Francesco
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Posted - 07/03/2013 :  20:05:39  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It should be Annamanum chebanum (Gahan, 1895)... originally described as Uraecha.
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Xaurus
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Germany
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Posted - 07/03/2013 :  22:34:06  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
this spms looks like Annamanum lunulatum (Pic) but with really big black spots, in Annamanum the mesosternal processus should be enhanced and vertical declined anteriorely vice in Uraecha.

bG
Andreas
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nalslan
Member Purpuricenus

China
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Posted - 08/03/2013 :  15:50:02  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Many thanks to Francesco again and Andreas.
I noticed that my beetle is alike Annamanum lunulatum (Thanks to Xavier, Bi and others on the forum for posting relative materials and photos) but I could not conclude that they are the same species.
I went to check Annamanum chebanum today and found the original description, and found how it said about the patch on elytra:
quote:

"...each with a somewhat roughly triangular velvety brown patch at the side just behind the middle ; this patch bounded in front and behind by an oblique dirty white patch which appears to be almost impunctate..."


So it raised my concern on the shape of the patch. I don't know how to get access to type photos from The Natural History Museum of London for the A. chebanum. Fortunately, I found a picture (fig. 2 f) of A. chebanum in Ponpinji (2011)'s checklist of Lamiinae in North Thailand (www.cerambycoidea.com/titles/ponpinij2011.pdf). I think my beetle is slightly different from A. lunulatum. I'll keep looking for others in the genus.

Thanks again to all of you!



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Edited by - nalslan on 08/03/2013 16:01:02
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Francesco
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Posted - 08/03/2013 :  18:10:16  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have tried to improve your picture that is fairly clear on my PC; this is the result:


This species has nothing to do with Annamanum lunulatum, which is grey with a black spot. Here:


The image of Ponpinji's paper seems to be wrong; it should be Annamanum rondoni Br. Here the type:


On the contrary, this is the pattern of A. chebanum (Breuning, 1944):
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nalslan
Member Purpuricenus

China
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Posted - 09/03/2013 :  02:30:06  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thank you Francesco! That makes things clear!
Though I am still hesitating a little bit on the ratio of the patch position at the elytra.
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Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia

Germany
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Posted - 31/01/2018 :  15:08:02  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
this species is now described as Annamanum magnum Holzschuh, 2017
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nalslan
Member Purpuricenus

China
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Posted - 01/02/2018 :  03:29:23  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Nice. Can you post source detail? Or even better, a copy of pdf? Thank you!
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