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Sergi
Member Rosenbergia
Spain
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 Posted - 13/09/2014 : 16:42:54
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From China, Fujian.
Size: 13 mm |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 13/09/2014 : 16:52:30
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| A Phoracanthini ? |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
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Posted - 13/09/2014 : 17:36:58
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| Elaphidiini, Allotraeus. |
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Sergi
Member Rosenbergia
Spain
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Posted - 13/09/2014 : 17:57:30
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Ok Francesco, maybe Allotraeus pallidipennis Ohbayashi, 1958.  |
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nasa
Member Rosalia
China
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Posted - 13/09/2014 : 18:54:16
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Originally posted by Xavier
A Phoracanthini ?
it should be Nysina grahami (Gressitt, 1937). a male spm from Guizhou China. scale bar=5mm.
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Edited by - nasa on 13/09/2014 18:55:00 |
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Sergi
Member Rosenbergia
Spain
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Posted - 13/09/2014 : 19:18:15
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One thing, genus Allotraeus is Phoracanthini also, nor Elaphidiini. I'm confuse.... |
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nasa
Member Rosalia
China
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Posted - 14/09/2014 : 03:38:39
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Originally posted by Sergi
One thing, genus Allotraeus is Phoracanthini also, nor Elaphidiini. I'm confuse....
yes. but Nysina grahami (Gressitt, 1937) was transfered from Allotraeus |
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Francesco
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Luxembourg
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Posted - 14/09/2014 : 14:38:09
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Originally posted by Sergi
One thing, genus Allotraeus is Phoracanthini also, nor Elaphidiini. I'm confuse....
Elaphidiini = Phoracanthini sinónimo objetivo.
Mira aquí. |
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Sergi
Member Rosenbergia
Spain
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Posted - 14/09/2014 : 14:53:48
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| Gracias por la aclaración Francesco!!! es compleja a veces la taxonomia!!!! |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
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Posted - 14/09/2014 : 15:02:35
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| Volviendo al tema, tanto los machos como las hembras de Allotraeus tienen espinas en las antenómeros III-VI o III-VII, mientras que Nysina tiene espinas en los antenómeros III-V. |
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Sergi
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 14/09/2014 : 17:03:43
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| Este especimen tiene espinas en los anterómeros III, IV y V. En este caso tal como dices será del género Nysina. |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
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Posted - 19/09/2014 : 18:35:12
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Originally posted by Sergi
Este especimen tiene espinas en los anterómeros III, IV y V. En este caso tal como dices será del género Nysina.
Subgenus Nysina.
The new status of genus has been only made by the catalog by Löbl & Smentana (2010), which includes a lot of errors, since several entomologists have already provided thousands of corrections.
The last entomologist who described species of this genus (Holzschuh, who is a well-known competent specialist  ) used Nysina as subgenus.
In fact, Allotraeus males have antennae spined from III to IV, V, VI, or VII article and no character has been noticed in order to justify a genus.
Using Gressitt (1951), your species belongs to Allotraeus (Nysina) asiaticus (Schwarzer, 1925) |
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Sergi
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 19/09/2014 : 21:48:05
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| Ok Francesco, Thank you very much for the explanation!! |
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China: Allotraeus (Nysina) asiaticus ♀
