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Pierre
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Posted - 16/01/2011 :  18:11:57  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote


From Costa Rica, 43 mm.
I received it with the mention "spinibarbis"... but is this right?
Compared with the following which is supposed to be a spinibarbis also, one must be wrong.

Edited by - Capitaine on 29/01/2016 10:51:18

Pierre
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Posted - 16/01/2011 :  18:13:35  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

From Argentina, 50mm + mandibels.
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Posted - 17/01/2011 :  13:35:06  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote

Dear Pierre; Prioninae, especially Mallodon, are very variable beetles; that's way a really large number of species, actually scarcely different forms, have been described. Still recently, two other species have been described, while other ones have been synonymised... we well see.

Actually, this genus includes three American species (molarius, spinibarbis and dasystomus) that may be identified through the observation of mandibles and genae. The other characters are questionable.
This fact is well know, but nobody has never furnished a picture in order to simplify this task. In the image at left you can observe the three different conditions (red gena, black mandible): 1. molarius; 2. spinibarbis; 3. dasystomus.
The images below are lateral views.
Of these species, only spinibarbis has a large distribution, the other ones being widespread in central America and in the Northern part of South America.
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Pierre
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Posted - 17/01/2011 :  20:01:13  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

Well,in this case let's see: detail of the first one (Costa Rica)
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Posted - 17/01/2011 :  20:02:00  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

same
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Pierre
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Posted - 17/01/2011 :  20:02:49  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

lateral view
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Pierre
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Posted - 17/01/2011 :  20:03:59  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

And the second (Argentina)
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Pierre
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Posted - 17/01/2011 :  20:04:45  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

same
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Pierre
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Posted - 17/01/2011 :  20:05:38  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

lateral view
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Francesco
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Posted - 17/01/2011 :  20:17:05  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Very interesting pictures: much better than my ugly drawings (it's not easy with photoimpact) .
Well: males of Mallodon molarius (Costa Rica) and Mallodon spinibarbis (Argentina).
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Pierre
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Posted - 17/01/2011 :  21:26:27  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Ugly is not useless.
For spinibarbis, it was evident. Concerning molarius, I was hesitating but you confirm my impression. Thank you for your help. First I had been hesitating with posting these, the topic was seeming somewhat "basic" ... but seeing the number of confused determinations ...
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Posted - 30/10/2018 :  16:42:09  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Small update: M. molarius is now considered as a synonym of Mallodon chevrolatii Thomson, 1867.
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Pierre
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Posted - 30/10/2018 :  17:13:09  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Ah... missed this. But a good news indeed. Thank you!
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