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                | BennyboymothmanMember Rosenbergia
 
     
 
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                      |  Posted - 21/03/2015 :  10:51:27           
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 Hello all.
 
 I have never seen anything quite like this before.
 Could it be something new?
 
 Data: 07-2014 - Brookes Point - Palawan Island 400-700m - Philippines
 Size: 22 mm
 
 Thanks very much.
 Ben
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                      | Edited by - Xavier on 24/03/2015  21:40:29
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                | XavierScientific Collaborator
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 21/03/2015 :  13:03:19       
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                      | topic moved as asked by Ben. |  
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                | BennyboymothmanMember Rosenbergia
 
     
 
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                      |  Posted - 21/03/2015 :  13:14:09           
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                      | Thank you. Does anyone have any idea on this? It seems very distinctive but as I said before I have never seen anything like it before. It has huge spines!
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                | GerardScientific Collaborator
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 21/03/2015 :  17:37:47       
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                      | Hello Ben I think that it is of the genus Thermonotus, to verify.
  
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                | XaurusMember Rosenbergia
 
     
 
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                      |  Posted - 21/03/2015 :  18:06:53       
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                      | It's a Thermonotus Gahan, 1888 acc the big pronotal spines, but the sp itself and the location are really interesting. |  
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                | BennyboymothmanMember Rosenbergia
 
     
 
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                      |  Posted - 21/03/2015 :  18:47:56           
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                      | Thanks guys. I have looked at images of all the species I can find and none resemble this one, they also seem to be from the Borneo/Malaysia area.
 Is there a paper for this particular family available?
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                | XavierScientific Collaborator
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 22/03/2015 :  09:37:37       
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                      | Which paper are you looking for ? |  
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                | BennyboymothmanMember Rosenbergia
 
     
 
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                      |  Posted - 22/03/2015 :  10:57:09           
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                      | I am not sure to be honest! I wondered if there was a paper with a revision of this family, although it seems not to be the case. |  
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                | XaurusMember Rosenbergia
 
     
 
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                      |  Posted - 24/03/2015 :  00:49:13       
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                      | The genus Thermonotus is revised in Breuning's large Lamiini-Revision from 1943. I have found a sps that could resemble to yours: T. coeruleipennis Aurivillius, 1911 (1913) described from Borneo, and stated as ab. in Breuning (1943).
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                | BennyboymothmanMember Rosenbergia
 
     
 
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                      |  Posted - 24/03/2015 :  08:39:18           
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                      | Brilliant, thanks for digging around for me. Do you have that particular paper? I will look for it in the files section.
 
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 Ben
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                | XavierScientific Collaborator
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 24/03/2015 :  20:13:55       
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 Translation:
 Thermonotus nigripennis Rits.
 Close to apicalis Rits., but black elytra, with bluish colour; part of scutellum reddish brown, red femora except at the apex.
 
 ab. coeruleipennis Auriv.: light blue elytra
 
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                      | Edited by - Xavier on 24/03/2015  20:22:41
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                | BennyboymothmanMember Rosenbergia
 
     
 
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                      |  Posted - 24/03/2015 :  21:24:59           
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                      | Superb! Thanks for the translation also.
 It fits the description.
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                | XavierScientific Collaborator
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 24/03/2015 :  21:38:48       
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                      | So, for its name, Thermonotus nigripennis Ritsema, 1896 or Thermonotus nigripennis coeruleipennis Aurivilius, 1911 |  
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                | jplamiMember Rosalia
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 24/03/2015 :  21:54:22         
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                      | Thermonotus coeruleipennis Aurivillius, 1911, stat. rev. in Holzschuh, Zeitschrift der Arbeitsgemeinschaft Österreichischer Entomologen, 2014, 66 : 83 (removed from synonymy with T. nigripennis Ritsema, 1896)
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                      | Lamiaires du Monde •  Lamiines of the World •  Cerambycidae Lamiinae
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                      | Edited by - jplami on 24/03/2015  21:57:15
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                | BennyboymothmanMember Rosenbergia
 
     
 
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                      |  Posted - 24/03/2015 :  22:27:25           
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                      | Thermonotus coeruleipennis it is then. Thank you so much for everyone's input.
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                | BennyboymothmanMember Rosenbergia
 
     
 
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                      |  Posted - 28/03/2015 :  16:43:51           
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 A better picture showing Recto and Verso to complete the topic.
 
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