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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia

USA
1263 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2015 :  13:08:54  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Francesco, Xavier, Gerard...
The expert help, information and photographs on this web site are really wonderful. What I suggest is a lot of work, but would it be possible to have sub-sections under Lamiinae (like Lamiini, Mesosini) and Cerambycinae, either based on geography or tribal affiliation? Likewise, to search the holotype photos for a species from Vietnam (or somewhere else) requires a lot of time. With one or two thousand messages being posted per year, it will really be helpful. I'm sure you have considered this, but I suppose it is a lot of work.

Xavier
Scientific Collaborator

France
8088 Posts

Posted - 29/10/2015 :  21:01:13  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Dear Dan,
Yes, I see, but it would need a lot of work, and personnaly, I have no time for that. With the function " search", I find or refind what I look for. The main problem is for species without ID.
For helping, we could add the tribe name to the next post ?

Is it different for the "type" section ? : if we create sub-sections for genus, I am not sure that pictures will be more "visible" . If you do not know what genus you look for, the problem remain the same...

Create a large galery is a dream : now, there are thousands pictures on the forum. For extraction, formatting, storage, name, links, it is a full-time job !

It' s only my point of view, let's wait the other guys
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horshehden
Member Purpuricenus

Czech Republic
424 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2015 :  10:01:11  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
In many groups, tribes are changing quite frequently; genera even more frequently.
Probably, everything you can do is make (obligatory?) field for new posts - Tribe & Region. But what if the author of the post has no idea...?
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia

USA
1263 Posts

Posted - 06/11/2015 :  13:12:33  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
To me, the most logical way is to organize a collection of unknown specimens or photographs is by region and then by relation, since most of the specialists in the world are focused on a particular area. After they are identified, then they can be organized by phylogeny, of course. I started this topic because I have a lot of unidentified species from China, Philippines and elsewhere which I can place to tribe or genus. I believe many of the Philippine species have been posted already, but it takes a long time to search. And they are small species, too, which I can't photograph.
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Francesco
Forum Admin

Luxembourg
7762 Posts

Posted - 26/01/2016 :  22:59:06  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dear friends,

I am trying to reorganize the Forum.
Now, we can insert the tribes... all will be more complicated and we risk to lose us...but we can try!
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator

France
8088 Posts

Posted - 26/01/2016 :  23:18:05  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Any help ?
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Francesco
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Luxembourg
7762 Posts

Posted - 26/01/2016 :  23:22:24  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Tu peux déjà déplacer chez les tribus dont j'ai fait le Forum... mais il faudra avoir d'autre collaborateurs...
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator

France
8088 Posts

Posted - 26/01/2016 :  23:23:30  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
ok, j'en fais un peu

Edited by - Xavier on 26/01/2016 23:23:51
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Francesco
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Luxembourg
7762 Posts

Posted - 27/01/2016 :  07:39:50  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
According to you, it this changement helpful or is the confusion augmented?
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator

France
8088 Posts

Posted - 27/01/2016 :  09:11:05  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Generally, we wrote the tribe in the topic, ...so I think it is quite the same.
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Capitaine
Scientific Collaborator

France
1165 Posts

Posted - 27/01/2016 :  10:47:57  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
N'étant plus en activité, j'ai un peu de temps libre...
Si je peux être utile il suffit de m'expliquer....

Claude
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africaone
Member Purpuricenus

Belgium
353 Posts

Posted - 27/01/2016 :  14:23:56  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
new arrangement is catastrophic
There are few prioninae and dispatch them is unuseful.
This kind of arrangement is good for a classification, not for a forum.
old one was good

s'il n'y pas de solution c'est qu'il n'y a pas de problème ! akuna matata ....
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator

France
8088 Posts

Posted - 27/01/2016 :  14:43:49  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Le rangement des Priones par tribus (même si tu les juges non-valides) ne change rien à la fonction "recherche". En clair, si tu recherches une espèce de Chine dans la sous-famille Prioninae, elle ressortira pour peu que le terme "Chine " est présent dans le post.
Je ne vois rien de catastrophique; inutile, peut-être (mais l'usage nous le dira).

Autre exemple d'un vaste groupe : les Glenea. Elles ressortiront à la recherche de la même manière qu'elles soient dans la sous-section Lamiinae ou Saperdini....si le terme "glenea" est écrit quelque part dans le post.
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator

France
8088 Posts

Posted - 27/01/2016 :  15:02:27  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Pour prolonger la discussion, rien n'empêche de conserver la section "unsorted Prioninae" pour les espèces à position taxonomique douteuse.
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Dominique
Member Purpuricenus

France
344 Posts

Posted - 27/01/2016 :  15:44:30  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Bravo pour le travail, qui va dans le sens d'une bien meilleure commodité d'utilisation, même si pour certains groupes où les tribus sont en pleine évolution/révolution, figer ainsi une classification peut gêner!

Ceci dit, et c'est un débat classique, je ne trouve pas très pratique le classement des tribus dans l'ordre "taxonomique" et pas l'ordre alphabétique.

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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator

France
8088 Posts

Posted - 27/01/2016 :  16:23:37  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
quote:

Ceci dit, et c'est un débat classique, je ne trouve pas très pratique le classement des tribus dans l'ordre "taxonomique" et pas l'ordre alphabétique.

Je pense qu'à l'usage, on va vite s'y retrouver.

Vu le nombre de post à reclasser, je me demande dans quoi on s'est embarqué
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