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Vitali
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Posted - 13/03/2011 :  13:55:15  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote


Another beauty.

Carlo Arrigo
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Posted - 13/03/2011 :  14:54:13  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Ciao Francesco,
potrebbe essere una femmina di Iothocera tomentosa?

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Francesco
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Posted - 13/03/2011 :  15:14:22  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeesss!!!


Il primo esemplare della mia collezione me lo hai determinato tu!
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Francesco
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Posted - 27/02/2013 :  20:35:19  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dear Vitali, I am studying this species.
Could you send me a picture of the pygidium from the hind side?
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Vitali
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Posted - 27/02/2013 :  22:13:59  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hi, Francesco. Here is the photo. Is the quality sufficient? Please let me know, if not and I'll take a photo with a microscope. For the case you cannot see... the pygidium is backlined with orange bristles


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Francesco
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Posted - 08/03/2013 :  17:29:16  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
mmmhm... I cannot understand very well.

Does the apex belong to this type


or to this one?
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Vitali
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Posted - 11/03/2013 :  19:38:25  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
It was not easy to see because of the apical orange bristles, but the apex is like in your first photo, Francesco.
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Xaurus
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Germany
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Posted - 12/03/2013 :  12:39:23  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
For me this spm belongs to Jothocera tomentosa (Buquet) but I have only 2 males, and the pygidium is without an incision.
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Xaurus
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Posted - 15/03/2013 :  12:30:54  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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Here is a (bad) picture of a female from my coll. probably this spms belongs to J. tomentosa, female with an incision at the pygidium, this fact is also new for me.
Maybe, the colour is a variable character yellow to red and also the stripes on the pronotum are different in male and female.
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Francesco
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Posted - 15/03/2013 :  19:55:06  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dear friends,
this topic has become too interesting and I moved it into the secret section.
I have just finished a paper about the genera Nemophas, Dolichoprosopus and Iothocera basing on genital and other sexual carachters.
Several species will be moved from Nemophas to Dolichoprospus and vice-versa, but Iothocera will become new synonym of Nemophas.
The incised pygidium is in fact typical of Nemophas, but the male genitals are very distinctive.

Thus, if you like send me some specimens (especially from Sulawesi, where there is a new species) in order to be mentioned in the paper, they are welcome.

Xaurus' beetle is probably a new species of Nemophas.
No other specimens are known.
Now, how do you prefer to act?
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Gerard
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France
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Posted - 15/03/2013 :  20:34:47  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Bonjour j’ai du mal a comprendre Francesco.
j’ai cette bête de Timika et Arfak, je te joint la photo du spécimen d’Arfak


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Mt Arfak, VII.2005, 26 mm Femelle

Si tu veux je peux te mettre aussi une photo du mâle de même provenance et la photo de la bête de Timika.
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cerambyphil
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France
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Posted - 18/03/2013 :  21:26:16  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
J'ai moi aussi un couple d'Arfak, dont la femelle est identique à celle du post précédent de Gérard. Je ne crois pas utile d'en faire une photo. Le pygidium à aussi une encoche.

le confort est fait pour être retrouvé !

Edited by - cerambyphil on 18/03/2013 21:56:41
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Francesco
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Posted - 05/02/2014 :  18:26:15  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
After the last revision of the genus Nemophas (Lambillionea 113/3, available here), Iothocera has become synonym of Nemophas.
Consequently, this species become:
Nemophas tomentosus (Buquet, 1859).

All your specimens has been mentioned in that article.
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Gerard
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France
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Posted - 05/02/2014 :  18:52:20  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Merci Francesco et félicitation pour l’article.
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Francesco
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Posted - 05/02/2014 :  19:04:13  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Demain je t'envoie le tiré (il est arrivé aujourd'hui ).
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