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Lenny
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Posted - 05/06/2016 :  09:09:49  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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Not sure if this is Prioninae
25 mm

Lenny

Edited by - Capitaine on 06/06/2016 11:44:31

Capitaine
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France
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Posted - 05/06/2016 :  12:19:18  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hi lenny, it doesn't match any prionidae known in Thailand !
Even if it has the look of an Aegosomatini, It's not (with this costae arrangement and the short third antenal joint).
For the moment, I don't have any idea !!

Claude
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Xavier
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Posted - 05/06/2016 :  13:13:21  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
It could not be a kind of Nepiodes like this one ?
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Capitaine
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Posted - 05/06/2016 :  18:41:19  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hello Xavier,
Maybe, but the only one which could be found on the north of Thailand is N. sulcipennis usually from Myanmar (On Laos, only N. costipennis)
The problem is that on this picture I don't see evidently the third antenal joint...(for me it seems too short).
I could confirm with a better picture..

Claude
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Lenny
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Posted - 05/06/2016 :  19:31:00  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote


I hope these will be OK

Lenny
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Capitaine
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France
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Posted - 06/06/2016 :  11:43:32  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Yes, I agree for genus Nepiodes but I don't know the other species recorded from Myanmar (and probably north-east part of Thailand): N. bowringi (Gahan,1894).
So, your specimen is either sulcipennis or bowringi.

Claude
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Capitaine
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France
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Posted - 30/06/2016 :  12:14:49  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
After acurate examination of this specimen (sent by Lenny), I'm not convinced that it's N. sulcipennis.
If you have a look at the following picture: sulcipennis (holotype GMZS) left, Lenny's specimen center, and bowringi from Assam right.
The elytral costae length and crosspoint are different and the pronotum shaping quite different between sulcipennis and center specimen.
It could be an other species knowing that sulcipennis and bowringi are usually listed from Myanmar.
I will contact Alain Drumont in order to have his opinion an advice about this specimen.


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Lenny
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Posted - 22/09/2016 :  08:28:22  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hello Claude.
I look everyday to see if there is any progress.

Lenny
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Capitaine
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France
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Posted - 22/09/2016 :  10:58:57  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hello Lenny, I recently heard about Alain Drumont and he told me that the specimen is being studied.
He owns several specimens from Thailand and he's going to compare in order to determinate the variability on the known species.

Claude
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Lenny
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Posted - 23/09/2016 :  05:37:51  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thank you Claude

Lenny
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Lenny
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Posted - 14/07/2017 :  08:23:01  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Can I have an update please

Lenny
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Capitaine
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France
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Posted - 14/07/2017 :  18:55:46  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hi Lenny, in the current state of things i hav'nt any additional material to clearly identify a new species of Nepiodes (I'd like to describe it but i think that it's too risky to do this whis so little comparative material).
If you find an other specimen like this one tell me and we will consider a description possibility.
For the time being, keep the name N. sulcipennis (?)

Claude
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Lenny
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Thailand
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Posted - 15/07/2017 :  04:51:21  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thank you Claude.
In your previous post you said Alain Drumont said it was being studied What were Alain Drumonts comments and who has the specimen now please

Lenny
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Capitaine
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Posted - 15/07/2017 :  16:58:09  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Yes, but i hav'nt any other information from Alain about this specimen. I'll ask him soon if he had time to compare it with other specimens owned.
The specimen is currently in my box of specimens under study.
If you want to recover it, there is no problem, just ask me.

Claude
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