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Gontran
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Posted - 06/02/2017 :  20:56:48  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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Encore une autre espèce (ou deux?).
De gauche à droite :
PNG Okapa, PNG Simbu Kerowagi x 2, PNG Aseki
Je n'ai pu trouver quelque chose de semblable, mais le dernier à droite est différent.

Gontran

Edited by - Xavier on 08/02/2017 13:20:49

Bennyboymothman
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Posted - 06/02/2017 :  21:04:51  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Bennyboymothman's Homepage  Send Bennyboymothman a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Perhaps Tmesisternus adspersarius?
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Xaurus
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Posted - 07/02/2017 :  01:24:37  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
T. pseudosuperans Breuning, 1939
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Xavier
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Posted - 07/02/2017 :  06:53:20  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
and what about the last one ?
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Bennyboymothman
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Posted - 07/02/2017 :  08:24:30  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Bennyboymothman's Homepage  Send Bennyboymothman a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Still looks like Tmesisternus adspersarius for the last.
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Gontran
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Posted - 07/02/2017 :  21:06:17  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I think the last one at far right may be T. adspersarius.
From Papua Insects Foundation this is the only one of that group that shows male and female. And then I realize the pronotun is quite different depending of the sex.
(Admitting of course these ID are OK)
I would say that the three other ones at left are T. pseudosuperans, but again, according to the only photo I got from Papua Insects Foundation I see the pronotum is extremely different.... Should we suppose my specimens are females ?

Gressitt (Tmesisternini) on page 89 gives some details.
Indeed, apex of elytra of the one at far right is different from the other ones.

In any case your opinion and suggestions are very useful. Thanks.

Gontran
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Xaurus
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Posted - 08/02/2017 :  00:47:00  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
correction: left 3 females of T. pseudosuperans
right female of T. pseudoviridescens (but I still have a problem with T. adspersarius)
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Gontran
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Posted - 08/02/2017 :  02:14:47  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
And thanks again for confirmation of T. pseudosuperans females.
I would be curious to see a photo of T. pseudoviridescens.
Is it close to T. adspersarius ?
Here is again a photo of the beetle alone.




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Xavier
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Posted - 08/02/2017 :  13:23:39  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Full names of this post are:

- Tmesisternus pseudosuperans Breuning, 1939

- Tmesisternus pseudoviridescens Breuning, 1939

Edited by - Xavier on 08/02/2017 13:23:56
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Gontran
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Posted - 08/02/2017 :  17:08:41  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Merci Xavier.
À la prochaine.... Certainement

Gontran
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Xaurus
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Posted - 10/02/2017 :  01:03:25  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
please see in the type section acc HT's
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Gontran
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Posted - 10/02/2017 :  01:40:31  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hi Andreas. Many thanks for those last identifications. Thats' great.
About pseudosuperans, pseudoviridescens :
Type section... At Lamiinae types, it seems I have "no access to this forum"??
How come ?

Gontran
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Francesco
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Posted - 10/02/2017 :  13:20:40  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gontran

Type section... At Lamiinae types, it seems I have "no access to this forum"??
How come ?
La section des types st normalement ouverte pour qui a envoyé plus de 50 messages.
Avec ce rythme, encore une semaine Gontran.
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Gontran
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Posted - 10/02/2017 :  15:15:55  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Pas de problème. Rien ne presse.
À bientôt donc. Merci
Gontran

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Gontran
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Posted - 10/02/2017 :  15:47:14  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
And thanks again Andreas.... I will see those Types soon.

Gontran
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