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anders
Member Demonax

Norway
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Posted - 19/05/2017 :  21:01:02  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote


Same sp as the former (same collecting data: RSA, Transvaal); this bigger: 13 mm and elytra with diff design.

Chariesthes sp. ?

Edited by - Xavier on 19/05/2017 21:30:20

Xavier
Scientific Collaborator

France
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Posted - 19/05/2017 :  21:24:48  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hello,
Could you add all data please ? The "former one" is not enough
Edit: it is done.

Edited by - Xavier on 19/05/2017 21:30:52
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Jérôme Sudre
Member Rosalia

France
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Posted - 21/05/2017 :  13:05:02  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Bonjour

Cette bête m'a tout l'air d'être Prosopocera (Alphitopola) schistacea Jordan. Il me semble que Pierre Téocchi considérait cette espèce comme une simple variété (in litteris) de P (Paralphitopola) maculosa Pascoe. Par ailleurs il est à noté que le Prosopocera (Alpitopola) schitaceoides Breuning, 1981 est très certainement la même chose que P schistacea !! J'ai la photo des deux types et à mes yeux il n'y a aucun doute là dessus.

Bonne journée
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anders
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Norway
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Posted - 21/05/2017 :  17:43:34  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thank you, Jerome! I'll note the three ex here as P. (A.) schistacea. I have here 4 ex of P (P.) maculosa (det. Francois Rousset). They differ from the specimens above in having nearly no lateral spines on pronotum, having slightly shorter scapus, and they all lack the bluish tinge. Besides all the maculosa have two black dots near anterior margin of pronotum. This is lacking in the schistacea. If Francois' ID is correct, I would say maculosa and schistacea are specifically distinct.
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Jérôme Sudre
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France
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Posted - 21/05/2017 :  20:11:21  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Ok Anders I do not know schistacea I have only seen the type of which I have the picture and seen the variability of maculosa I remain skeptical about the validity of schistacea but when I have before me it is possible that I totally agree with you and I could be wrong !. Good evening Anders and see you soon.
Jérôme

Edited by - Jérôme Sudre on 21/05/2017 20:14:15
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