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Sergi
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Posted - 05/12/2017 :  10:30:35  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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From Russia, Primorye, Oktyabrsky. Size: 14 mm

Maybe Brachyta punctata (Faldermann, 1833)???

Edited by - Xavier on 06/12/2017 07:23:31

Xavier
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Posted - 06/12/2017 :  07:23:06  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
It seems the same here.
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Sergi
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Posted - 06/12/2017 :  09:51:46  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
No!! it's different specimen!!
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Xavier
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Posted - 06/12/2017 :  11:44:15  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Ok, sorry but I can not see on your pictures the differences.

Edited by - Xavier on 06/12/2017 11:44:30
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Sergi
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Posted - 06/12/2017 :  19:47:40  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
The legs are reddish, in the other specimen are entirely black.
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Capitaine
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Posted - 07/12/2017 :  10:38:05  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Sergi, if you make a thorough examination of the legs you can see that it's just a color variation and that the tibiae on the other post are brown-dark on the basal part.

Claude
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Sergi
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Posted - 07/12/2017 :  10:59:36  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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The two specimens, the left from China and the right from Russia
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Xaurus
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Posted - 07/12/2017 :  23:16:46  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
maybe an unknown population, send it to Danilevsky he will describe a new sp. or ssp. terrible, like in the beginning of last century ?
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Francesco
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Posted - 08/12/2017 :  07:28:32  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote

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Some time ago I took a picture of my specimens coming from Kul'dur (Far East Russia), which I sent to Danilevsky.
The female reminds your specimens.
I identified them as B. punctata but I will search the e-mail to find Danilevsky's answer.
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Sergi
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Posted - 08/12/2017 :  10:39:51  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thanks to both!!
Francesco, ya me dirás la contestación de Danilevsky cuando encuentres el mail!!
gracias!!
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Sergi
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Posted - 08/12/2017 :  11:20:28  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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This picture is from the book Longicorn beetles of Russia and Adjacent countries Part 1 by Danilevsky.
The number 31 is very similar to my specimens, determined as Brachyta (s.str.) punctata punctata (Faldermann, 1833)
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Francesco
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Posted - 08/12/2017 :  11:35:37  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sergi

Francesco, ya me dirás la contestación de Danilevsky cuando encuentres el mail!!
9.I.2011: Encontrada! ...but not very important:

Dear Francesco,
Thanks a lot for your pictures!
Brachyta are great!
Yours
Mikhail


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