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Max
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Posted - 06/04/2018 :  20:10:38  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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Vietnam, Yenbai prov., Mucangchal, H = 1700 m., V.2017
male, 26 mm

In my view this beetle fit well to description of N. montipanus
but very big (I have two males ~26 mm)
On the other hand I have too the males of N. pennata from 11 to 16 mm, so that difference of size not so important in this group...

Edited by - Xavier on 17/06/2020 07:10:42

Xavier
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Posted - 13/06/2020 :  15:06:54  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Did you checked description of Necydalis shinborii Takakuwa & Niisato, 1996 ?
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Max
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Posted - 14/06/2020 :  01:33:11  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
No I don`t earlier on, thanks Xavier.
Well, pretty similar to that detailed description (but notes like "about 1.8-2.7 times as deep as genae below them" - it doesn't work with this wide range of data in my view). For me the lateral tubercles of the pronotum are very weak in my beetles (2 males) and the shape of the parameres is also different.
So good idea, thank you. But I`m not sure.
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Xavier
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Posted - 14/06/2020 :  14:36:03  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I see another possibility. Your specimen seems also close to the HT picture of Necydalis similis Pu, 1992 = Necydalis strnadi Holzschuh, 1989 in Lin M., 2015. Album of Type Specimens of Longhorn Beetles Deposited in National Zoological Museum of China, page 71.

Edited by - Xavier on 14/06/2020 14:36:33
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Max
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Posted - 17/06/2020 :  00:38:47  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I haven`t this book.. But based on the description N. strnadi I can say that I like your first idea (as shinborii) better than your second.
Honestly, when I read descriptions, I remind myself of a hypochondriac person with a medical encyclopedia... all fit to all
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Xavier
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Posted - 17/06/2020 :  07:09:59  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

Well, N. strnadi is blackish, and shape of pronotum is different.
After reading(again an again), Necydalis shinborii seems to me the best option.
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