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L. Hart
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Posted - 03/05/2017 :  21:49:46  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit L. Hart's Homepage  Reply with Quote


Looking for correct id.
Tanzania, Male 13/14 mm Female 16 mm

Edited by - L. Hart on 13/05/2017 12:34:44

L. Hart
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Posted - 12/05/2017 :  16:09:27  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit L. Hart's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Has no one any ideas about this one ??
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dryobius
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Posted - 13/05/2017 :  02:41:07  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I think it is a Ptycholaemus.
One of the African specialists should be able to identify it to species.
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Sergi
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Posted - 13/05/2017 :  09:23:26  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Maybe Striatoptycholaemus variecollis (Schwarzer, 1931)
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Pierre
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Posted - 13/05/2017 :  09:45:43  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Fuzzy topic, already discussed here.

Now, basing on Adlbauer's writings which are so far the only complete study we have, I see 2 possibilities (the problem is that the photo does not clearly show the surface of the pronotum).
- Either Ptycholaemus troberti Chevrolat, 1858, but usually this species has bright silvery vittae. Here they appear yellowish golden but this could be due to the photo, or some grease to remove.
- Or we have Striatoptycholaemus variecollis Schwarzer, 1931, the large and flattened antennal joints fit well with this item.
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L. Hart
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Posted - 13/05/2017 :  12:33:46  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit L. Hart's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks everone for there help.

I have looked closely at your link Pierre and as far as I can tell it is nearest to Striatoptycholaemus variecollis Schwarzer, 1931, but with some differences, apart from slight difference in pronotum, mine has much shorter antenna and is from Tanzania not Cameroon.
I can confirm that my images are pretty accurate in colour and I would rule out Ptycholaemus troberti Chevrolat, 1858, I cannot find any images of Derolus gabunensis so have no way of comparing them.
I have attached a close up of pronotum, still not very clear but best I could do


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Edited by - L. Hart on 13/05/2017 12:36:15
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Francesco
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Posted - 18/06/2017 :  08:26:07  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This species does not correspond to none of the already described ones.
It is about a Derolus (= Ptycholaemus, Striatoptycholaemus, see here) of arid habitats, still to be described. This might explain the short antennae.

I move the topic into the secret section.

Ps. Derolus gabunensis is the first species of this topic.
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africaone
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Posted - 18/06/2017 :  09:57:05  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I have something like that from Katanga (PN Upemba, 2002) .... determined with a "?"

s'il n'y pas de solution c'est qu'il n'y a pas de problème ! akuna matata ....
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Francesco
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Posted - 01/03/2026 :  19:10:44  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have just bought the same species coming from Tanzania, Morogoro, but I cannot identify the exact locality: Nguu Mts.?
Where are coming your specomens from, Len?
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Vitali
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Estonia
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Posted - 02/03/2026 :  11:16:15  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
If it is Morogoro, then it might be Uluguru mts. I have many insects from that area.
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Francesco
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Posted - 02/03/2026 :  21:26:31  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Un grand merci Pierre!
Mais je pense qu'il s'agit des Mts. Nguru.
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Pierre
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Posted - 03/03/2026 :  10:25:25  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Euh... Vitali, c'est Vitali, pas moi...
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Francesco
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Posted - 30/04/2026 :  10:59:22  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have described this species as Ptycholaemus puncticollis n. sp.

PDF available here.
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