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Bennyboymothman
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 Posted - 11/02/2018 : 20:03:29
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Moechotypa sp. ?
Still can't find this one.
Data: 28-02-14 - Mt Trus Madi - Keningau District - Sabah - North Borneo - Malaysia
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Edited by - Xavier on 25/02/2018 09:43:46 |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
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Posted - 12/02/2018 : 13:38:50
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| If it really belongs to Moechotypa or Moechohecyra genus, It doesn't fit with any known species . I think it could be an undescribed species. |
Edited by - Xavier on 12/02/2018 13:40:48 |
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 12/02/2018 : 16:41:26
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I have a couple like this from Sabah.
I believe it is undescribed and so someone please move this to the proper forum..
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Xavier
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Posted - 13/02/2018 : 13:16:30
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| So, you both, should write a paper to describe this species. |
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Bennyboymothman
Member Rosenbergia
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/02/2018 : 20:04:52
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Agreed, I have no known species like this from my collecting years and from sources that have provided me with specimens of this genus.
I'd be interested to see your specimens! |
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Beckey
Member Rosalia
Japan
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Posted - 24/02/2018 : 08:52:00
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| It seems to be Pteropliini for me. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
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Posted - 24/02/2018 : 11:41:30
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Originally posted by Beckey
It seems to be Pteropliini for me.
I have the same doubt. Something close to Rhytiphora genus ? |
Edited by - Xavier on 24/02/2018 11:47:46 |
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Xaurus
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dryobius
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Posted - 28/02/2018 : 06:03:30
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The photo by Ben, is clearly, in my opinion, a Moechotypa. Moechotypa generally have very rough or rugged sculpturing on the pronotum. The two species in Borneo which we are familiar with (M. thoracica & M. marmorea) have quite different sculpturing on the pronotum.
Note that Ben's specimen (and two that I have) has a swollen scape, somewhat like M. attenuata from Vietnam. Mimoniphona does not have this feature.
The antennae of Ben's specimen appears to be about the same length as my specimens, so perhaps they are all females. The antennae on my specimens nearly attain the apex of the elytra when straightened out.
I don't know the length of Ben's specimen, but mine are the same length as M. marmorea. Sometimes, Pteropliini get this large, and sometimes they even have long antennae, but generally not.
Finally, the tarsal claws are of a form like other Moechotypa, and not Pteropliini. |
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Max
Member Rosalia
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Posted - 01/03/2018 : 18:35:42
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| If it's really paratypus here so, it is or something very close. |
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dryobius
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Posted - 01/03/2018 : 18:59:43
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Niphoropica albipennis is much smaller I believe.
Yes, there is some similarity.
Niphoropica does not have the large protuberance on the side of the pronotum. It's pronotum is reddish-brown... not black.
This new Moechotypa is about 20-21mm. |
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Francesco
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Posted - 01/03/2018 : 21:29:02
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According to the description, Niphoropica albipennis is 17 mm long, not so far from this species.
The pattern is too particular to be a different species. |
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Bennyboymothman
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Posted - 02/03/2018 : 00:07:51
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20mm exactly. I believe my specimen appears to be a female also.
I am pretty sure it fits in with my other Moechotypa species with it's general jizz and characteristics.
It has a wide scape and is rather bumpy along the top of the scape as well.
I guess it needs looking at further but I am unable to at the moment with limited time. |
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dryobius
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Francesco
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Posted - 02/03/2018 : 17:40:46
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Originally posted by dryobius
Niphoropica albipennis is much smaller I believe.
Niphoropica does not have the large protuberance on the side of the pronotum.
1. Maybe it is better to read descriptions before judging  :
Breuning, 1964: 67
2. The position of the head is innatural. This specimen does not overpass 18 mm.
3. Pteropliini, Apomecynini and this species have normal (divergent) claws.
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dryobius
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Posted - 02/03/2018 : 19:04:02
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| The photo does not clearly show the claws. I have mine in front of my eyes!! DIVARICATE! |
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Malaysia: Niphoropica albipennis
acc the type picture: