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SDevesa
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Posted - 03/09/2018 :  12:17:07  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote


I believe it is Rhapipodus manillae, but the spines in the legs confuse me...Can somebody help?

The first one is from Halimun Mt. JAWA W.
The second one from Salak Mt. JAWA W.

Edited by - Capitaine on 04/09/2018 14:05:55

SDevesa
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Posted - 03/09/2018 :  13:26:08  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
It seems there are some problems to insert the ventral view. I will try again...
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Capitaine
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Posted - 03/09/2018 :  14:17:11  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Check your picture title (no space between words)

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Capitaine
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Posted - 03/09/2018 :  14:25:07  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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So, there's no need to see a ventral view. These specimens (male and female) are a black form of Rhaphipodus blumei (R. suturalis var blumei for some authors).
Mt Halimum is typical area for this species form.
here an other specimen from this area

Claude

Edited by - Capitaine on 03/09/2018 14:25:48
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SDevesa
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Posted - 03/09/2018 :  17:13:50  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thank a lot, Claude.
I understand that they are male and female?
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Capitaine
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Posted - 04/09/2018 :  14:03:54  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Si, definitivamente

Claude

Edited by - Capitaine on 04/09/2018 14:04:11
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Francesco
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Posted - 05/09/2018 :  14:47:42  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SDevesa

It seems there are some problems to insert the ventral view. I will try again...

There were parentheses in the names of the files.
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Xavier
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Posted - 05/09/2018 :  15:24:12  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
In Titan database, valid name is Rhaphipodus suturalis Audinet-Serville, 1832.

Rhaphipodus blumei Lansberge, 1884 and Rhaphipodus suturalis var. blumei Lameere, 1919 for the 2 other choices...

Edited by - Xavier on 05/09/2018 15:29:08
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Francesco
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Posted - 05/09/2018 :  20:33:42  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Mais, en effet, j'en déjà parlé ici.
Il faut renommer tout les topics avant la parution de l'article (qui, pour ce qu'en je sais, n'a jamais été commencé).
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Capitaine
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Posted - 09/09/2018 :  19:48:13  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Oui, je dois y travailler, mais il me faut accéder à pas mal de matériel localisé assez loin de Toulouse !! pour pouvoir valider sa réintégration.
Pour ma part je reste sur mon opinion après examen de nombreux spécimens c'est à dire le nom de taxon "Rhaphipodus blumei Lansberge 1884"

Claude
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