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                 nalslan 
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                       Posted - 01/09/2019 :  10:33:32
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       E. fisheri? E. marginatus? or something else?  A headache species... Any idea?  Thanks.
 
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                 Xavier 
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                       Posted - 01/09/2019 :  11:12:14
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                      |  Exocentrus (Pseudocentrus) keiichii Tsuyuki, 1999 & Exocentrus (Pseudocentrus) kusamai Tsuyuki, 1999 from Taiwan seem to have similar habitus,but I have not seen HT. (and if you find original descriptions...) | 
                     
                    
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                 nalslan 
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                       Posted - 01/09/2019 :  11:17:25
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       Thank you Xavier, I'll try.
 
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  Exocentrus (Pseudocentrus) keiichii Tsuyuki, 1999 & Exocentrus (Pseudocentrus) kusamai Tsuyuki, 1999 from Taiwan seem to have similar habitus,but I have not seen HT. (and if you find original descriptions...)
 
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                 Xaurus 
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                       Posted - 02/09/2019 :  01:00:15
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       similar is Exocentrus (Pseudocentrus) parterufipennis  Breuning, 1956 too, but described from the Philippines  
 
   anybody has the descriptions of the both Tsuyuki's species in the Elytra journal ? | 
                     
                    
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                 sangamesh 
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                       Posted - 02/09/2019 :  14:17:21
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       Here is the link to Tsuyuki's publication...Publications in the Elytra from 1973-2010 are freely available here
 
  Edit: It seems pdf link I attached is not working...but you can get Tsuyuki's publication from the other link mentioned above...once in the website, just search for "27(1)005TsuyukiS" | 
                     
                    
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                 Xavier 
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                       Posted - 02/09/2019 :  14:28:43
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       Sorry Sangamesh, but I do not find it with your link. This one works. Anyway, it's neither of these two species from Taiwan, given the length of the antennas. | 
                     
                    
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                 Xaurus 
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                       Posted - 03/09/2019 :  00:17:10
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                      |  thanks for the link ! | 
                     
                    
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                 znort 
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                       Posted - 03/09/2019 :  18:38:17
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                      |  I find one specimen very close in Jiangxi in June this year. Like you I think in first marginatus or maybe kusamai. | 
                     
                    
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                       Posted - 04/09/2019 :  07:47:41
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                      |  Holotype picture of Exocentrus (Pseudocentrus) marginatus Tsherepanov, 1973 is available here and here. | 
                     
                    
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                 nalslan 
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                       Posted - 04/09/2019 :  10:09:37
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       Xavier, thank you.  Access to and understanding the original description are also headache issues.   
 
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  Holotype picture of Exocentrus (Pseudocentrus) marginatus Tsherepanov, 1973 is available here and here.
 
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                       Posted - 05/09/2019 :  00:15:43
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                      |  I don't believe its E. marginatus esp because of the different shape of pronotum and other features too, but indeed very similar in first view. | 
                     
                    
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                       Posted - 08/09/2019 :  21:43:40
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       Yes, very large pronotum but very similar totally. I haven`t the female, three males only. Here from Lazo district-
 
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                 Xavier 
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                       Posted - 08/09/2019 :  21:52:17
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       quote: Originally posted by Xaurus
  I don't believe its E. marginatus esp because of the different shape of pronotum and other features too, but indeed very similar in first view.
 
  
  Do you have a picture of a true E.marginatus , or better, a good picture of the holotype ? | 
                     
                    
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                       Posted - 09/09/2019 :  00:27:59
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                      |  Max's pict is a true male of E. marginatus | 
                     
                    
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                       Posted - 09/09/2019 :  08:48:24
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       Ok  , I just figured out . | 
                     
                    
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                       Posted - 09/09/2019 :  09:00:30
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                          205.06 KB a small assembly to identify differences.
  * note that the Chinese specimen lacks segments 11    Well, except for the sides of the pronotum... | 
                     
                    
                       Edited by - Xavier on 09/09/2019  09:11:24 | 
                     
                    
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