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FraRug
Member Purpuricenus

Italy
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Posted - 19/12/2025 :  23:56:46  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I came across this striking resemblance...
Pachylocerus pilosus Guerin, 1844 (left) and Rhytidodera concolor Nonfried, 1895 (right).

More than a resemblance


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(photo from Larry's site)
Edited by - FraRug on 20/12/2025 10:12:20

Xavier
Scientific Collaborator

France
12548 Posts
Posted - 20/12/2025 :  12:00:39  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Yes, most of Nonfried species are false.
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FraRug
Member Purpuricenus

Italy
221 Posts
Posted - 20/12/2025 :  18:25:14  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Donc, plus qu'une simple suspicion! Merci pour l'information, Xavier.
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator

France
12548 Posts
Posted - 21/12/2025 :  15:02:18  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
La photo de cette espèce est sur le site du muséum de Belgique. Chacun a pu repérer cette synonymie évidente, mais personne n'a daigné la publier .
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dryobius
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USA
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Posted - 23/12/2025 :  01:26:03  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Synonymy? Transference to a different genus is not synonymy. The two Pachylocerus illustrated here are very different. But the questions remains: is Nonfried's species something that was described previously, or maybe has someone else subsequently described it under another name?
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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 23/12/2025 :  10:40:20  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dryobius

Synonymy? Transference to a different genus is not synonymy. The two Pachylocerus illustrated here are very different. But the questions remains: is Nonfried's species something that was described previously, or maybe has someone else subsequently described it under another name?

Yes (I wrote too quickly)
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