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Bennyboymothman
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Posted - 31/01/2016 :  11:16:59  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Bennyboymothman's Homepage  Send Bennyboymothman a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote

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Hello all.
This new forum system has really thrown me, sorry!
I have no idea where I have to post species of a particular family that I don't now the genus of?

Anyway, I need help with this... probably posted in the wrong sub-section.

Data: 15-06-06 - Bonampak 300 m - Ocosingo - La Selva Lacandona - Chiapas - Mexico - 42 mm

Regards
Ben

Edited by - Capitaine on 01/02/2016 10:31:03

Capitaine
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France
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Posted - 31/01/2016 :  14:31:22  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I think this female belong to genus Strongylaspis; maybe bullatus (Bates,1872)
Ben, when you have a doubt concerning the tribe of a new specimen, don't hesitate to put it on the folder "unidentified prioninae".
we will drive it on the right folder after determination.

Claude

Edited by - Capitaine on 31/01/2016 14:55:15
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Bennyboymothman
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Posted - 01/02/2016 :  09:19:08  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Bennyboymothman's Homepage  Send Bennyboymothman a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you, looking at the pronotal spines, it looks spot on.
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Francesco
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Posted - 23/09/2016 :  09:31:29  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The correct name is Strongylaspis bullata Bates, 1872.
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Capitaine
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Posted - 24/09/2016 :  16:49:15  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Merci Francesco, par contre je ne comprend pas pourquoi le type ici est étiqueté "bullatus" (bullata semble avoir été donné par Lameere en 1903..) ?

Claude
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Francesco
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Posted - 24/09/2016 :  18:22:53  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Le genre Strongylaspis fut crée par White (1853) pour Strongylaspis scobinatus White, 1853 (nomen nudum) et comme-ca mentionné par Thomson (1860: 313), qui est devenu son auteur.
Donc, ce nom fut crée masculin!

Malheureusement pour les deux auteurs anglais, le nom "aspis" est féminin (cf. ici) et comme tel doit être selon le Code.
Cette faute de Thomson avait été déjà remarquée par Gemminger & Harold (1872), mais il y a toujours quelqu’un qui continue à publier de fautes (par exemple la révision de Monné & Santos-Silva (2003) ...
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Capitaine
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Posted - 25/09/2016 :  11:56:47  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Oui, je suis étonné que, lorsqu'ils créent de nouvelles dénominations de genre (ou d'espèce), des auteurs de ce renom ne cherche pas à accorder le genre avec l'espèce au niveau de la racine grecque ou latine..

Claude
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dryobius
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Posted - 25/09/2016 :  14:13:23  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
You can download a recent paper on females of Strongylaspis from Insecta Mundi.

WAPPES James E. & SANTOS-SILVA Antonio, 2011

Descriptions of females of Nothopleurus Lacordaire and Strongylaspis Thomson (Coleoptera: Cerambycidae: Prioninae: Macrotomini) with new distributional records

Insecta Mundi, Gainesville 0168: 1-6, 9 figs.

15 avril 2011
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Capitaine
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Posted - 25/09/2016 :  18:27:27  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thank you Dan, I did it..

Claude
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